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Noah Birnbaum's avatar

Aren’t precise people going to say that you should have precise credences the same way that you should have probabilities over all hypotheses and update instantaneously over evidence (as a Bayesian)? As in, the normative claim isn’t a claim about what should be done (insofar as what should be done could be done feasibly), but it is merely to say that this is how ideal reasoners behave and that we should approximate it.

Saying that this is a harsh standard, then, says very little about whether we could say that ideal reasoners would do it, and therefore we should approximate it, I think.

I think one critique here that does make sense is just to say that there is no actual evidence that can lead you, in principle, to precise probabilities for a rational agent. While I probably disagree with this (I think the principle of indifference and all your subtle priors over conditional probabilities will do a bunch of work here), I think this kind of critique is reasonable.

Vasco Grilo's avatar

Thanks for the interesting post, Jesse.

A probability that it will rain tomorrow of 0.50496847 is almost exactly as accurate as a probability of 0.5 (it is slighly more or less accurate), and they are technically equally precise since they are both point estimates. I agree 0.5 feels reasonable, and 0.50496847 sounds silly, but I do not think this implies precise probabilities are fundamentally flawed.

0.50496847 implicitly communicates that having so many digits is relevant, whereas it is not. It would be hard to come up with real decisions where it matters whether the probability of rain is 0.5 or 0.50496847.

In addition, 0.50496847 implicitly conveys that the distribution describing the probability, i.e. its probability density function (PDF) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Probability_density_function), is very narrow, whereas this is not reasonable. In other words, 0.50496847 communicates an unreasonably high credal resilience (https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/topics/credal-resilience). For example, 0.5 could be interpreted as the mean of a distribution with 25th and 75th percentile of 0.4 and 0.6, whereas 0.50496847 could be read as the mean of a distribution with 25th and 75th percentile of 0.50496846 and 0.50496848. The 1st distribution is way more reasonable than the 2nd.

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